Wednesday, 18 January 2006

I Wonder What Laws Have Been Broken Today, To Make Me Feel Safer?

Man, I've spent far too much time of late arguing with right-wing maniacs who think they are Socrates on the internet; it's exhausting but at least you can develop your thoughts in depth.

Polanco, over at her blog, has been documenting the key elements of fascism and drawing some comparisons with the current US government and I found some interesting quotes I'd like to share with you. First up is top Nazi Herman Goering:

"Of course people don't want war...But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along...the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."

Are we that easy? Are we that transparent? Of course we are! What about when one of Abraham Lincoln's mates suggested the US invade Mexico in a pre-emptive strike in 1848? His response:

"Allow the President to invade a nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose...and you allow him to make war at pleasure...How could you stop him? You may say to him, "I see no probability of the British invading us" but he will say to you "be silent; I see it, if you don't".

And you must all know Theodore Roosevelt's badass quote:

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

Noam Chomsky, a true legend of words that leave the US administration reaching for their vital organs as the sentences pierce them, laid this fact on:

"Democracy in the US rhetoric refers to a system of governance in which elite elements based in the business community control the state by virtue of their dominance of the private society, while the population observes quietly."

I've stumbled upon some nice piece bits and pieces on the web last few days, such as the new Get Your War On (top quote: 'Why did twice as many American soldiers die in Afghanistan in 2005 than 2004?'), Emmanuel.K.Bensah II laying some facts down on US sponsored assassinations of left-wing leaders and one of the funniest web pages I've seen in a long time.


  1. To quote a wise friend, Arguing on the internet is just the best.

  2. I love this post. The quotes are great! I wonder if my mother and her friends (habitual republicans - and I say that because they don't think about why they vote now it's just what they've always done) would understand the significance of those statements in relation to today's events.

    BTW, I watch BBC news when in Europe. Most countries have that and CNN as the english-speaking channels. It's difficult to find current and relevant news when I can't speak the language.

  3. Amen, amen, amen. You preach it, brother. I couldn't have said it better myself.

    And you know what's scary??? You are sounding like a conservative!!! And the Neocons are sounding like fascists!!!

    Well, OK, the Neocons have always sounded more like fascists.

    But you are DEAD-ON here, and it really saddens me to see that there are IDIOTS out there that DON'T GET IT!!!

  4. OMG, the yeti site is FUNNY AS HELL. I laughed till I cried!

  5. I like to think that my political beliefs cover some key elements of conservatism and some elements of liberalism, I prefer it that way, less black and white and more honest; open to different approaches, as long as they are in the main kind spirited and humanist.

  6. interesting, Lincolns opposition to the Mexican American war almost ended his political career. I wonder if hanging with his conviction was the indicative of or the making of his perseverance later in life

    If nothing else though, the Viet Nam experience did prove that the citizenry does wise up to Government shenanigans

    The Carte Blanche permitted the US President under the war powers act bothers me,,,,, A LOT

  7. Read the small book, "What Uncle Sam Really Wants," by Noam Chomsky.

    Chomsky points out National Security Council Directive #68, which was the official modernisation of Manifest Destiny, which detailed goals for global domination.

    He also shows how NSC-68 caused the whole Guatemala/Nicaragua/Vietnam/etc thing.

    It becomes much simpler to anticipate how the US will move next knowing this.

    On the facism note, remember how Hitler's greatest fear in taking the Sudetenland was that the Czech government would meet his every demand? Then when they did, he just ignored them?

    Funny how Bin Laden offers an unconditional truce that is promptly rejected by the nazi invaders.


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